Ipswich: Council place stop order on car enthusiast events

Motoring enthusiasts at Ray Connors' Drift-swich event at Orwell Crossing lorry park. Motoring enthusiasts at Ray Connors' Drift-swich event at Orwell Crossing lorry park.

Monday, January 20, 2014
10:33 AM

Controversial ‘drifting’ events organised by a young businessman with a passion for cars to keep enthusiasts off the streets of Ipswich have been banned by the authorities.

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Suffolk Coastal District Council served a Temporary Stop Notice on the Orwell Crossing Lorry Park, barring it from hosting the monthly Drift-swich events after it received a number of complaints from local residents.

“The Temporary Stop Notice is in relation to the unauthorised change of the use of the land from its permitted use as a lorry park...for the practice, racing, display, demonstration or exhibition of any mechanically propelled vehicles,” said a council spokesman.

“This action has been taken following complaints from local residents about noise nuisance on each of the three occasions that an ‘event’ has been staged at this site.”

Event organiser Roy Connors said he will contest the notice and claims the council has “backtracked” on previous judgements.

“I have a letter stating that the council officer who attended the event found no noise nuisance and that no formal action was required so I think they’ve completely backtracked themselves” he said.

Mr Connors, 29, said he would appeal on the grounds of the “permanent development rights 14-day rule” which he claims entitles the venue to host events so long as there are no more than 14 a year.

The owner of the truck stop, Karl Rout, had previously issued his support for the drifting events, having carried out his own noise monitoring and found little noticeable difference between that and the background of the A14.

Suffolk Coastal district councillor Christopher Hudson who had received a number of complaints about the events said he was pleased to see the authority take the appropriate action.

“It’s quite a dangerous activity and it’s really unsuitable,” he said.

The notice runs for 28 days and anyone breaching the order during that time can face fines of up to £20,000 in magistrates’ court.

22 comments

  • i am lucky [ i drift every time i drive my reliant robin.

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    TERENCE MANNING

    Monday, January 20, 2014

  • The majority of the cars used are in fact only used for this sport & are not road cars At no time do it endanger road users, in fact the degree of skill to perform on the track makes using the public roads with joe public on a more dangerous place to be.

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    Victor Meldrew

    Monday, January 20, 2014

  • Oh dear, I feel this could well lead to a protest. Can you imagine it? A plague of Fandango’d Beema’s roaring and drifting in a seething mass outside the Council offices. What disruption! What a great PR stunt! The media attention would be massive! Oh dear indeed. What may I have started?

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    David White

    Monday, January 20, 2014

  • In response to the comment from in_my_own_words I take it your knowledge of bald tires is greater than the officers from suffolk constabulary who have been present at these events. I can assure your that tires used for this sport would not be in a fit state to use on the road afterwards. As for the noise aspect that you clearly hear in your bedroom( event timing 9am-5pm you must sleep in late) there is no case to answer according to the council's own monitoring from various reference points away from the area. This is simply a misinformed underhanded councilor (C hudson) grinding his axe against others, not even in support of his own ward (voters). The safety aspect is very miss informed as to control these vehicles to the degree to perform drifting you need more skills than the average driver is ever taught making the public roads a very dangerous place to be. Perhaps banning driving in public would be the councilors answer or a total ban on all motor sport activities.

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    Victor Meldrew

    Tuesday, January 21, 2014

  • Ginge- purposely driving a car sideways on the road is illegal, if you dont think it is I sincerly hope you dont have a license. I would imagine motorsport venues have to be licenced giving consideration to safety and the local enviroment and probably a load of other stuff. Why dont the land ownersevent organisers apply for the rights to hold this kind of activity? Thats what everyone else has to do, private land or not.

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    IanW

    Monday, January 20, 2014

  • Said this would happen - not a formal event. If you want to do this sort of thing, buy a ticket for a track day or become a professional race driver. Dont do it on a lorry park. Thuggish, pointless event.

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    ipswichLAD

    Tuesday, January 21, 2014

  • Well done council, so they will now be drifting around your new £25m traffic lights on civic drive, complete Muppets.

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    Tedbundy

    Monday, January 20, 2014

  • How utterly ridiculous as usual by our Council! So know, instead of having somewhere to officially go and do what they enjoy, the car enthusiasts will stay in the public car parks in Ipswich that they currently frequent, genius! My brother in law is such an enthusiast and these people are entitled to practice their hobby, other events are run in areas of the South East and work very well, why then, does Ipswich Borough Council insist on being so behind the times!

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    JustMyOpinion

    Monday, January 20, 2014

  • "The owner of the truck stop, Karl Rout, had previously issued his support for the drifting events, having carried out his own noise monitoring and found little noticeable difference between that and the background of the A14." Does Mr Rout obtain any pecuniary advantage in the form of hire fees for the use of his land? If so then "his support" and "noise monitoring" could be very biased and so I see the reporting of his assessment as pointless.

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    Johnthebap

    Monday, January 20, 2014

  • In reply to the very few negative comments: IanW: Perhaps you should do some research before you voice your opinion and comments. There is no such motorsport licences for holding drift practice events. This is classed as a leisure activity as motorsport involves racing competing. The event organisers had attended the suffolk safety group meetings and discussed covered every aspect of safety. There was no question to the safety of the event. Yes the councilor did state "dangerous and unsuitable activity" However he also was very il-informed and didn't do his background research, nor did he even attend any of the events, So i'm not entirely sure how he could even comment on the safety aspect. Mr Hudson probably had no idea they had even attended the SAG meeting which just goes to show how bias one sided his research into the events really was. A Friend Johnthebap: The council monitored the event and found no noise nuisance from the decibel readings they took on the day not just Mr Rout! Therefore the council has not stopped a noise nuisance as the council were the ones that stated they did not deem the event to cause any significant noise nuisance. And "A friend" the council has again not prevented "idiots using their cars in a dangerous manner" in fact very far from it. They have taken the one place these so called "idiots" could drive dangerously in a monitored and safe environment and forced them back onto the streets where i'm fairly sure you will agree it will be far more dangerous to drive in such a manner. A friend: Drifting may seem "pointless" to you however to many it is not. Very similar to me feeling your pathetic comments seem "pointless", however we all have a passion for something. It just happens yours is moaning and the guys in question is drifting.

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    ben

    Monday, January 20, 2014

  • Just My Opinion, you need to get your facts correct mate. It is not Ipswich Borough Council who have put a stop to this event but Suffolk Coastal District Council whose area the Truck Stop is in. I do however think that yet again there are some people who have hidden agendas and don't like to see anyone having fun and enjoying their hobby. I for one can't see any point in drifting but if that floats your boat then ok as long as it is being done in a controlled safe environment what is the problem. perhaps we should also then ask Suffolk Coastal Council to ban the historic vehicle event that happens every year from Ipswich to Felixstowe. After all the vehicles which take part in this event are in excess of 40 years old or more. So by the same argument those killjoys who seem to love posting their objections to others having fun would support me in a ban on these vehicles being on the road on safety grounds also, due to their age and the very real likely hood of some sort of mechanical failure. After all vintage vehicles don't even have to be taxed.so the rest of us who pay our road fund licence each year are subsidising someone else's enjoyment.

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    IMP

    Tuesday, January 21, 2014

  • Are you saying without this event the petrolheads will speed and "drift" around the streets? I wonder if this principle will work for other crimes; perhaps we should organise a burglary event, or perhaps a perhaps a shoplifting convention.

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    IanW

    Monday, January 20, 2014

  • There has been a long running vendetta against the Orwell Lorry Park by memebers of the public and the council in that area. The fact is it removes people from doing something dangerous in a Street (but actualy not illigal as long as you keep control of the vehicle and stay within the speed limit you have broke no law) in a wide open space it is quite safe as there is nothing to hit when you get it wrong. It is a good idea as it removes people from doing it in inappropriate places. It like something else we all do, ok in the Bedroom but not something you should be doing in the High Street. Back 30yrs ago we all used to find old USAF airstrips to play on, they have now nearly all gone or been fenced of by farmers to use as free hardstanding so why not let them use somewhere safe and out of the way. Oh I forgot they might be "yufs" can't have them enjoying themselves safely whilst you sit in your slippers sipping your sherry can we.

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    The Ginge

    Monday, January 20, 2014

  • Are you saying without this event the petrolheads will speed and "drift" around the streets? I wonder if this principle will work for other crimes; perhaps we should organise a burglary event, or perhaps a shoplifting convention.

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    IanW

    Monday, January 20, 2014

  • Once again the council have done the WRONG THING! You wait until all the car parks are full because THEY HAVE NO WHERE ELSE TO GO!!!! Brain dead! And Councillor Chris Hudson should be ashamed of himself for using underhanded tactics to remove this positive event!

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    Not A Friend!!!

    Monday, January 20, 2014

  • Perhaps the enthusiasts should take their event to the streets in the area instead? See how much the moaners moan then? There is nothing wrong with 'drifting' so long as it's in a reasonably remote and safe location without other people or parked vehicles around. This site is one of only a very few even remotely suitable.

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    Sentinel Red

    Monday, January 20, 2014

  • Well done to the Council, not only does it prevent noise pollution but it prevents idiots using their cars in a dangerous manner, not only is drifting pointless it means the cars could be unsafe when they leave the event without even knowing, hence being dangerous on the A14. If those involved used private land and not cars used for the road after the event then fair play to them.

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    a friend

    Monday, January 20, 2014

  • I have seen and heard this drifting 'event.' Many people use road cars driven there from home, and then taking on the A14 after having a 'play' back home. Often having very illegal, and very dangerous bald tires! I live in Levington, and when they hold these meetings I can hear the screeching tires from my bedroom (that faces the other direction.) So they may think there is not allot of noise pollution, but in reality there is, it may not be noticeable there due to the A14, but when you travel 3 miles and can hear them clearly, there is obviously a problem.

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    in-my-own-words

    Tuesday, January 21, 2014

  • These are not your boy racers, these men are car enthusiasts with a passion for motor sports. They behave in a legal & professional manner spending time & money on a hobby. They obtained all the permission needed but find 1 councilor pursuing them when it is not even in his ward!! Yes you will get noise from the track, but consider this it only 3 cars allowed at any one time on the circuit. Oh & lets remember they are making money for charities whilst enjoying themselves. The danger from the sport is less of a risk than driving on the public roads with so many basic skilled people holding driving licenses.

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    Victor Meldrew

    Monday, January 20, 2014

  • The majority of the cars used are in fact only used for this sport & are not road cars At no time do it endanger road users, in fact the degree of skill to perform on the track makes using the public roads with joe public on a more dangerous place to be.

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    Victor Meldrew

    Monday, January 20, 2014

  • Good afternoon In reply to the article in the EADT I would like to advise the readers as to a couple of points. The cars used for the “drifting” were modified (roll bars, extra seat belts and striped out of any flammable materials) the cars arrive on trailers and leave the same. Mr Conners had all the safety rules covered as well as insurance in place, non drivers were segregated by way of barriers and the roadway which was used was swept and litter picked up at the end of the day. The Police and fire brigade officers who attended commented on how well run it was they even had the Police helicopter overhead for half an hour observing. Environment agency in attendance found no noise issue on site or at the location of a person who did complain the sound is different from the background A14 noise but no louder using a Db meter. The Environment agency did confirm this in writing to Mr Conners. It is worth noting that an event similar to this used to be held in Felixstowe on a public road 10 years ago near Manning’s on a Sunday. As far as I am aware the people pertaining in this type of event appear well disciplined and a very friendly bunch and not the same as the ones who do it in unsafe places like public roads. Although I support what Mr Conners is trying to do for road safety and vehicle control (I had to pay use the police skid pan when I leant to drive in 1976) I can no longer give my consent to use the road way at the top of the lorry park. Perhaps Mr Hudson could use his council influence to find a suitable location for Mr Conners (have you thought about extra track days at the Stock Car Track) until then I wish you all well. Karl

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    Karl Rout

    Monday, January 20, 2014

  • The majority of the cars used are in fact only used for this sport & are not road cars At no time do it endanger road users, in fact the degree of skill to perform on the track makes using the public roads with joe public on a more dangerous place to be.

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    Victor Meldrew

    Monday, January 20, 2014

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